Ive had to deal with religios issues too. The one that pisses me off the most is when Christans who know Im Jewish come up to me and go: "You Killed Jeasus!"

Jewdism gets its contant parodies and jokes too. So I know how you feel.

Yeah- you of all people would understand. Friken Poeple- I didn't know you were that old!! Whoa!

And you do have the most attacked religion. Technically- Like blood-wise, I'm half jewish. Becuase my dad is. Well- his family isnt religose or anything- But you know. Thats what I'd study up on if I weren't Wiccan. Everything else just seems so foolish...

Did you know that the whooe ordeal with 'Jesus' towards the end completely mirrors and ANCIENT story about one of the gods I worship-Oden. Like- precisely mirrors it. Wicca is the oldest religion. Sighns of it have been found all the way back to the stone age in caves marking. Pretty cool I think. So don't let the Jesus snap bother you becasue it's all an elaborate snap about a Would-Be-Black guy being something that he wasn't.

And Fuck Mel Gibson too. I hated that movie and I only watched it becuase my friend bought it and asked me to.

huh, I didnt know Oden was considered Wiccan. I only knew him as a Norse god.

How old I am, Whats that supposed to mean?

By "how old are you?" I think she meant that you would have to be a couple thousand years old to have killed Jesus. That was my take on it anyway.

Yeah!! You get it! ;).

Nono- I didn't mean it as a Wiccan God- I meant it as a god soem Wiccnas chose to worship- and yes- he is norse.

I'm saying old as in- you couldn't have you'd be two thousand years old!!

"You killed Jesus"!?!? That is so stupid, it isn't even true, the jewish community did not kill jesus in the first place. What is really sad about the Christians is that they don't bother to even try to read anything or find out about what it is that they believe in. There are many sources of information about what actually happened that day, 20 March AD 33, one of the most interesting to me is the islamic Koran, which says, "Yet they slew him not, niether crucified him, but he was represented by one in his likeness... they did not really kill him." What happened was that he fell carrying the cross and a man named simon ran up to help him carry the cross, (as was planned long before), and Simon took his place on the cross. But I guess that is all beside the point. yes, religious persecution has existed a very long time, it is a sign of a primitive world.

Okay, I have had some time to think about it, I have a confession to make. I am guilty of religious persecution too. Here I am dogging on the Christians, catagorizing them, being prejudiced to them, and worst of all being hypicritcal by saying they are the primitive ones because of thier religious persecution of others. I guess I am prejudiced against Christains, so I don't know, I guess that makes me as guilty as them.

I do it too- It's like - And eye for an eye. I apologize I suppose... Not really. And yes- I've heard about the Simon thing too. Technically- The blame could be pointed at Judas Iscariot who I suppose you could say was Christian or even the Roman governor Pontius Pilate who sentences him. Who knows- right?

Maybe I will do a post in my journal about this, there is just so much to say about it.

i used to invite people to sit with us if i saw them sitting alone and i met some really cool people that way!! But yeah, i think your religion rocks!! I know close to nothing about it, but i agree with everything you said, so yeah. guess what. i ripped my pants today:( not across the butt or anything like that. but they are ripped. on the knee. what a bummer...

Yeah!! You did!!! SICKNESS- Guess what Kath?! I RIPED MY PANTS LAST NIGHT TOO!!! But not so lucky as to do it at my knee...

hahahaa! no way!!! where? when? how? DETAILS!!!

Well-It was quites simple- I was in my room puting up pictures and I fell of my bed- tried to break my fall and did a split thing and it ripped right in the center... My pants are ruined...

SHAKESPEARE FUCKING HATES YOU.

This is one of the most ridiculous things that I've read in a long time.

So you don't like what you're being called. Let me help you try and understand some of the animosity coming towards you from "Catholics/christians/whatever".
The first comment "pagan heathens" the definition of heathen is: "One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. Such persons considered as a group; the unconverted." As such, I don't think that you can really complain about that one. It seems to be about right. The second comment, "devil worshiper" may be a little hard for you to comprehend, but for a Christian or a Jew, the first commandment handed to Moses on Mt. Sinai, the paramount belief, is "I am the Lord, your God. You shall have no false gods before Me". The pantheon of Paganism is certainly false gods in the eyes of Christiandom and Judaism, and false gods turn people away from God to evil, which can be viewed as the devil if you like. The comments may be demeaning, but they certainly do not appear to be false in the eyes of faith. The bad guy representation can also be related to the view that heathenism is, in fact, pure evil, since it completely rejects the truth of the Lord.

People go crazy when you call their religion a myth because, while many of the Old Testament stories certainly have a mythical element to them, the adherents of Christianity and Judaism believe in an objective truth contained within these stories. You can't pick and choose which stories you want to believe in as you can choose gods in Paganism, you have to accept the Canon handed down by the wisdom of church fathers and find the truth within all those stories. It is THE "HOLY" (wholy? serioiusly?) book. I don't see why you can't understand that a religion would need some reason that you should follow it instead of any other religion. The reason is that real religions believe that they hold the OBJECTIVE TRUTH about the nature of God. The reason that the "judging" as you see it (I call it a pronouncement based on one's religious values) won't stop, is because people with faith believe that they are absolutely correct about what they think about your religion. Because they have faith in their religion.

On to "Jewdism." Kind of funny that a Jew and a Wiccan are entering into an interreligious dialog given the amount of bloodshed and persecution between your two religions the past 5000 years, the roots of even the modern day Israel-Palestine conflict. To get through you quickly, nobody with a brain actually thinks that the Jewish race in general was responsible for the death of Jesus. It was certainly only the corrupt Jewish priesthood of the time, and while I sympathize towards any Jew who is discriminated against, I think it is important that you understand why, as a Jew, you shouldn't be sympathizing with a Wiccan, and why your own religion sees her as a heathen devil worshiper.

Finally, Priestess Mary, I don't think you can put too much stock in anything written two thousand years ago for precise dates, times, or even entire accounts of events. So going to the dead sea scrolls and the Koran about Jesus really adds nothing more than any one faith can say about him.

I've said my fill.

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Anonymous,
Boy you sure have a lot of guts, how brave of you to post as "Anonymous". You must really have faith and conviction in what you are saying if you are so brave and bold as to hide behind a title of "Anonymous".
You know, the Bible is as old as the dead sea scrolls and the Koran, and other documents, so why would you put more stock in one over the other? You said "You can't pick and choose which stories you want to believe in", so what makes what you are doing so different?

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HERE HERE!!

And I'd also like to say- this is America- Yes- We CAN pick and choose if we damn well feal like it!!

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The Bible is older than the Koran.

You put your stock in documents based on their content, not their age.

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You just proved my point, thanks. You were the one that brought up the age of documents. I do put my stock in documents based on thier content, AND how they compare to other documents of the time. The Bible contridicts too many other sources, also, I have found that many other documents make a heck of a lot more sense. Let's face it, virgins giving birth, a man changing water into wine, raising people from the dead, raising from the dead himself? Sorry, it sounds like fiction to me, other documents accounting for what happened make a lot more sense, for example...
1) The latin word "Virgo" was the word which people mistranlated to mean "Virgin", but the word in fact simply means "young woman"
2) The wedding at which Jesus turned water into wine, was his own wedding to Mary Magdalene. The dead sea scrolls account for this event is much more belivable. Jesus very often broke from the rules and traditions, as it was his goal to sway non jews to accept the god "Jehovah", without having to accept the traditions and laws. This way he could gain more support for being "the messiah". At weddings only the wedding party could drink wine, others were "unclean" and must drink water. Some of the guests did not like this tradition, and Jesus gave them wine instead of water, breaking long standing tradition. Appaling some and impressing others.
This reply is long enough without getting into the "raising from the dead" issues, some of which I covered in another post. I think I have made my point. The Bible not only contridicts other documents of the time, but the New testament contridicts the old testament, why put faith in something that contridicts itself?

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Such a deeply interesting comment He/She Who Will Not Be Named. So interesting I had to make a whole new entry for it... In it you'll find a complete apology...